Curse

boost291 · May 16, 2006, 08:28 AM // 08:28

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sai of Winterland

/signed
/signed
/signed

Notice how most of the people who posted "not signed" are the ones that is holding the two Faction cities. Acting pretty selfish there and elitist-like. Everyone should have a chance to experience these elite missions without mindless grinding. Even casual players should have a chance because sometime ago, Anet mentioned that GW was meant for casual players too. But they seem to forgot about it with the addition of grinding for faction. Glad that The Crusaders [TC] alliance opened The Deep to everyone in the community. Being one of the true, positive, helpful alliances out there.

It is not mindless grinding, all you have to do is come up with a strategy and dedicate yourself.
I know of strategies where players can earn of up to 40 000 K faction within 2 hours.
To think of such a strategy shows there dedication to the game and the thought they put into this aspect of the game which in my mind gives them the right to the term "elite" and thus the elite missions

iShiver · May 16, 2006, 08:41 AM // 08:41

/signed

I'm a CEO and a Dad of two, I use GW to relax visiting views and taking in the funny back chat/rage quiters that are floating around in the outposts/missions. As much as I'd like to I don't have enough time during the day but my SS/MM gets busy during the times I do play so why shouldn't it be opened up. I'm not a casual player but I don't get more than enough stick time than someone far younger.

We have OpenSource why not OpenDeep.
I brought the game not half the game.

VorianVader · May 16, 2006, 09:24 AM // 09:24

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Originally Posted by Zephyr Jackson

/NOT signed, they are restricted for a reason, it gives the dedicated players something to work for, it keeps players in the game, and it requires some skill for the mission to be completed. the casual players dont deserve to be there, the people who actually contribute to the game are the people who should be playing.

/signed

I cannot be a "dedicated" player since I am not a teenager with an overabundance of free time. I am a casual player with a real life and job.

It requires NO skill to get to an elite mission. You just need enough free time to be able to grind faction day in and day out.

Having said that, I agree that it requires skill to be able to complete an elite mission. I got into the deep a couple of days ago, courtesy of TC; joined up with a PuG of other casual players and we finished the mission on our second try. What does that tell you? Never make the mistake of equating skill with daily hours spent on the game (especially if it involves running a repeatable quest for mindless faction grinding). If that was the criteria, then the trade spammers in Lion's arch & the grinders would have the most skill.

Peace and grow up!

Pete1975 · May 16, 2006, 11:33 AM // 11:33

/signed

I am part of a large alliance and I think it unfair that people are excluded. And if/when we take a city I will be ferring people in by the bucket load, TC are a really good example of how guilds should be.

However there is the point of why farm faction? Better still what was the point of faction in the first place? Surely Anet knows people will find exploits.

I enjoy "playing" guildwars and am an active player, but i do not want to spend my time grinding away to get faction. I do my bit to farm faction but it is sooooooo boring.

pbspectre · May 16, 2006, 01:44 PM // 13:44

/in the works...

http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s....php?t=3035132

i'll wait and see what they come up with, but this definitely restores a bit of my faith in the devs...

Rogmar · May 16, 2006, 10:26 PM // 22:26

Quote:

Originally Posted by iShiver

We have OpenSource why not OpenDeep.
I bought the game not half the game.

Elite Missions are not even close to an eighth of the game...
Besides there's ways you can get into the alliances that control the towns

midnight caretaker · May 16, 2006, 11:01 PM // 23:01

Then why did your alliance farm over 400,000 faction in an hour today when TC took control of the Deep? If the elites are only 1/8 of the game why has your alliance obsessed with it? THANK YOU CRUSADERS!!!!

BTW No one likes the 49ers

midnight caretaker · May 16, 2006, 11:04 PM // 23:04

Also is there any truth to a rumor that faction will be reset on the 30th or even gotten rid of for the elite mission entrance?

vtrajan · May 17, 2006, 12:50 AM // 00:50

The Elite Missions are fine as they are and they are not changing the mechanics.
No matter how much moaning and griping, you'll just have to satisfy yourself with making friends from TC and XoO.
The elite mission is an added bonus, it is not something you paid for. You paid for the eligibility to access them, the chance/opportunity to try to get into them.
You don't decide what you get from the game, the developers and makers do.
This is what they decided.

durand · May 17, 2006, 12:59 AM // 00:59

/signed

Sagius Truthbarron · May 17, 2006, 01:28 AM // 01:28

/not signed.

They're pretty easy to get into as it is. The more people who get into them, the more idiots.

Also, the more people there the less valued the items that drop are. What's the point of going there if the drops aren't even worth a UW run?

Rhunex · May 17, 2006, 01:31 AM // 01:31

Quote:

Originally Posted by vtrajan

The Elite Missions are fine as they are and they are not changing the mechanics.
No matter how much moaning and griping, you'll just have to satisfy yourself with making friends from TC and XoO.
The elite mission is an added bonus, it is not something you paid for. You paid for the eligibility to access them, the chance/opportunity to try to get into them.
You don't decide what you get from the game, the developers and makers do.
This is what they decided.

Sorry but I saw a few things wrong with this.

First, it is changing, a prior link in this very topic lead to it,

http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s....php?t=3035132
Perhaps you didn't see it because it was posted while you were typing your post, so there it is.

Also, the part
"You don't decide what you get from the game, the developers and makers do."
is wrong as well.

Even though the developers have the ultimate power to decide what happens in their games, it would not be wise for ANet or NC to tell their customers to suck it up and deal with their crappy game that a vast amount of people dislike. Changes can and are made to GW all the time, and computer games, in general, are rarely released perfect, hence why the dev teams at software development companies set up some sort of way to receive feedback from the consumer, and petitions, such as this one, show how much a change is desired. Usually a couple hundred signatures does the trick...mainly because expecting all the millionS of people who play GW to be on GWG and also see this topic, and have a strong enough conviction towards the opinion of the topic to sign it is rather small, % wise(because obviously a couple hundred is small compared to millions)

As for my own opinion, I payed $50 for Factions, and considering I was told GW was not based on how much time I spend in-game vs. my skill level, I don't think that it's fair that I should be required to spend a long time on GW in order to access certain content of the game, because I dont have all the time in the world to play games. I'm happy to get in 10 hours a week, and often times I only do 2 hours a week. Sorry to the elitists who think it should be a reward for the "hardworking" alliances, but I dont see whats hard about doing the same thing over and over, and I also dont see why I should be penalized for not having as much time to play games

just rude · May 17, 2006, 01:33 AM // 01:33

/sign, I'm mostly pvp and it is still the worst idea going.

just rude · May 17, 2006, 01:35 AM // 01:35

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Originally Posted by Sagius Truthbarron

/not signed.

They're pretty easy to get into as it is. The more people who get into them, the more idiots.

so, you are doing them with the henchies? simple answer don't go with ppl you don't know.

Maria The Princess · May 17, 2006, 02:01 AM // 02:01

/signed

I agree that elite missions should be made much more readily available to all players of all levels of dedication."

Maria T
maria the princess/burnout chic/miss kickasser
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Rogmar · May 17, 2006, 02:05 AM // 02:05

Quote:

Originally Posted by midnight caretaker

Then why did your alliance farm over 400,000 faction in an hour today when TC took control of the Deep? If the elites are only 1/8 of the game why has your alliance obsessed with it? THANK YOU CRUSADERS!!!!

BTW No one likes the 49ers

Because we care about that part of the game...I'm just refuting that guy's point because he said he paid for that HALF of the game which amounts to 25$? I think not...

BTW I like the 49ers, Reggie Bush does and so do a bunch of people, can you say 5 Super Bowl titles...

midnight caretaker · May 17, 2006, 02:40 AM // 02:40

Rogmar,
Dont take anything I write personally. I play the game to relax and enjoy myself, Im sure like 95% of the GW community. The thing that everyone is in an uproar about is not being able to access all parts of the game we paid money for. You guys are looked at as the bad guys because you are usually in controll of the town and black out access, as far as I know. (Also being asked WTF I was doing down there because I was not in tyour guys alliance among other not so nice words. I tried getting a ride while Black Blades were in control but just wasted my time spamming need ride to elite mission, same thing in The House. This personally frustares players and thus needs to be changed other wise people will stop playing. Once again 95% play to relax and enjoy themselves not get frustrated. If someone gets frustrated at playing why would they buy the next chapter of GW. I think GW changing the access to the elites is inevitable if they want customers for future chapters. I dont think people would look at the Black Blades the way they are now if you let people in or gave us some way to get there somehow. Why dont u guys charge 500g for a ride or something I would pay that, and im sure others would too. This way you wouldnt be wasting your time farming all that faction either just a thought

Im from Chicago so the only team is DA BEARS

Smiles · May 17, 2006, 03:31 AM // 03:31

/sighned

Brother Redmund · May 17, 2006, 06:14 AM // 06:14

/signed. all people should have the opportunity at some time to at least have a go at these, before long these missions will cost so much to win over, due to the fact that alliances will just play for the sake of owning them (reminiscent of IWAY and rank, anyone?), and effectively preclude regular players the chance of ever having a go at all.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fargin Scotchsman

/signed, need to balance favor alittle bit too (euros have it waaaay to much)

sorry fargin i have to LOL at this...... i remember in the first few months of prophecies. euro was like the third wheel when it came to favour. if we had it, it was a novelty that we held for 45 mins or so, and TOA would go from 1 to 8 or more euro english dists in a flash, cause people never had a chance to enter FOW or UW. Its all cyclical.

master chief matt · May 17, 2006, 06:59 AM // 06:59

I agree that elite missions should be made much more readily available to all players of all levels of dedication.

Matt Bolinder
IGN: Master Chief Matt
Region: American server
age:22
Guild: Arcane Phoenix[ap]